Particles realistic dust motion

Hi there I want to ask how can I make realistic dust particles motion,then how to make that better using afterburn?
This is my max9 scene file that contains my progres so far so tell me if my motion is unrealistic or it can be better please tell me any tip or tutorial for making this better Thanks in advance!!

U can try to do it yourself in the scene and post me here !!

This is the update of the motion so tell if it is realistic enough or it needs to be better,if its good i will do some rendering and finish the progress sorry for the low quality but its just test


here is the link

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee15 ... motion.flv
http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee15 ... s_blur.flv

links seem broken...

Sorry Try now

cool, thanx for fixing those.

What you've got is interesting, but it doesn't look like dust. It looks like a bunch of gnats or flies are sitting on a box, then get disturbed. In the second one, it looks like they land again after the box quits moving. Great flies, bad dust.

Afterburn won't help with the particle motion, only what it looks like when it renders (I think, anyway. I'm just learning afterburn now). I'd have to say keep working on the motion, then once that's correct, think about how to render it. Right now, you definitely need it to have less random motion after they leave the box surface. They should come off and settle slowly, having a bit of turbulence when the box they first leave the box, but then gradually just being overtaken by gravity. Also, I don't think there would be much dust on the sides of the box, just top-facing surfaces.

keep going on this! It's definitely a promising start!

Thanks hype what u think is it realistic now first one or second or neither,I will post a scene for u if u want to do it yourself and post here!!

links

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee15 ... t_01-1.flv


http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee15 ... ust_02.flv

Im thinking neither are realistic.

The particles arent affected by the motion of what they coming out of, and as they move through the air they act like giant lumps of alien clay, trying to make a name for itself.

you know?

Ok try this and this is the scene file for u to try because I dont know exactly how to achieve that realistic effect

link

http://s232.photobucket.com/albums/ee15 ... scene2.flv

well, i'm working alot of hours right now, and taking a particle class online in my spare time, so I'm not too sure if I'll have time to take a stab at setting this up for you. Besides, if me or someone else does it, YOU won't learn how to do it. We'll help you out, though, but you should definitely be the one doing the tweaking.

the biggest problem I'm seeing so far with your shot is that the particles stick to the top while it shakes, and then all of a sudden come bursting off in every direction with tons of force. They look like swarms of bugs or pressurized water sprays or something. Something that has it's own power propelling it. Dust doesn't have any power pushing it, but rides air currents as gravity pulls it downwards.

something to try would be emitting on the first frame from the top faces of the geometry, then letting forces handle all the animation from that point on. Definitely have a gravity in there, and at least 1 or 2 wind space warps with strength set to 0, each with different settings in turbulence, frequency, and scale. and keep the scales small, like 0.1 or 0.05. You may need a drag, too so they don't fall to fast, or maybe just turn down the influence of the gravity (it defaults in PFlow at 1000%). Oh, and don't forget to have your box geometry set as a Udeflector.

That's what I would do right off the bat, and I'd start tweaking from there. There may be some issues with emitting from the same geometry you're using as a deflector, in which case you may want to make some non-renderable geometry to emit from that is slightly above the actual top face of the box geometry.

Anyway, there's some ideas to try. the main thing is to NOT give the particles a speed operator, let space warps (mostly gravity) do all the animating.

Download a video tut from Tyson's web and I to agree with hype, you are going to have to do this a number of times (yourself) just to learn the process of using pflow and the things in your scene to make it work the way you want. I found tweaking with particles is fun.

SO........start cracking and have fun

yeah, don't forget you can tweak the particles WHILE THEY'RE IN MOTION! When I discovered this, particles became so much more fun! Once you have it to a certain point, you can just let it play in the viewport while you mess with space warp settings, or settings in the PFlow events, and your changes will update in realtime!