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Rigging Proposal
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14 Mar 2007Hello Gang. Have we got any rigger's here? For a good month now I've been trying my darn hardest to rig a Simple Character in Maya;
I've got all 3 books in the 'Art of Rigging' Series, but I seriously run into some problem or another all the time, and nothing I do seems to go correctly. I've also bought 'The Making of PackageMan DVD', which tells you in the ins-and-outs of how Javier 'Goosh' when about creating the Rig for the Packageman Character.
So, is there anyone at all in here that could help me out on Rigging this little character? I wont be able to pay you or anything, but you'll get full credit as the Rigger. I'll be provide you with the Maya file.
Or I could post my current rigged Skeleton up here, and you guys could pick it apart, and tell me where im going wrong?
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Claymation 600 posts14 Mar 2007***Raises hand***
Damn I wish I had all those resources. What kind of problems are you having? How advanced of a rig do you want? Do you want a facial rig set up as well? -
RWilson 199 posts14 Mar 2007i would also be able to give it a shot. got some new techniques im itchin to try -
14 Mar 2007Hey guys, thanks a lot for the offers!
I just want a pretty basic character rig really, one that would be able me to fully animate him, including Facial Expressions and all.
I've yet to build his teeth and inside the mouth etc, but this is what the character's gonna look like pretty much - just smoothed out. -
RWilson 199 posts14 Mar 2007so are you going to model the blend shapes or would you like whoever rigs it to hit it up for ya?
both clay and I could tackle it, why not. . . Im looking at him right now, we are both wearing hooded sweatshirts, both of us have growing beards... its a purdy even playing feild, i tells ya. -
14 Mar 2007Ha ha! Do you guys work together then?
I have tried to create some blendshapes for him, but my expressions ended up looking awful! Like there was no emotion at all involved, it just looked like a dead man moving his face. So if it's at all possible, then yeah I'd like the guy that rigs him to create them. -
RWilson 199 posts14 Mar 2007rock on, can do.
and yes, we work together, he is the one that turned me on to this site.
if ya wanna talk more about the rig, feel free to e-mail me. im always lookin for more stuff to rig up
wilson_arts4614@yahoo.com -
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14 Mar 2007Wow Iest - that's a lot of very cool and indepth material at hand - I learned a lot from the first art of rigging book and would love to get the others! I'd like to know what sort of probs are having so we could improve on those areas.
That being said, like other areas of 3D (and life in general) I think you have to really want to do it before you put the effort in
And if you need any pointers for this guy I may be able to help... though it looks like you are in good hands already
BTW, since there are a couple of raised hands here, may I suggest a team collaboration... looking at this guy It shouldn't be a problem to divide the work and have someone doing the facial setup and blends
PS... this guy needs more edges around the chest and shoulders for sure, so before you start rigging, make sure everyone is happy with the geometry. -
14 Mar 2007Hey there Globes! Yeah I know! I seriously thought that with all that material in my arsenal I'd be one happy rigger! I've learned how to make the reverse foot lock thingy, along with the IK/FK arms, but the thing that I'm stressing about more than anything is the Spine, I find it unbelievably hard! Especially connecting the COG so that when you move the COG controller down, everything acts as it's suppose to. I've had some problems as well with the Shoulder rotation thing's - they don't line up, and makes everything go haywire!
It would be great if people could teach me how to do this stuff, that would be fantastic, would be cool to get like a team collaboration going, where we'd teach each other how to go about creating a nice rig.
Here's some screengrabs of what I've got so far;
The square object in his hips area is suppose to control the COG, but i cant get it to do nothing, as you can also see, the two shoulder controllers are on two different levels completely, the red one if facing upwards for some bizzare reason. I cant get my head around how you create the switch for the IK/FK switch. The Feet are ok, I've managed to get them working correctly, with toe roll, twist etc etc, but my main issue is the spine.
I haven't gone and rigged the head as yet - I've done some blendshapes, and I got it working aright, but they just looked lifeless, and really sucked!
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RWilson 199 posts14 Mar 2007ill start checkin it out tomorow
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14 Mar 2007Aye... I see what you mean. The art of rigging tuts are great for specific techniques but what they don't do is tell you how they all work together - and I can see what you mean, particularly about the spine, as I recently had a look back at that myself.
To be honest... the whole grouping and connecting of these things once you are nearing the end of the rig, or have done the spine / leg /arm etc. is something that can't really be taught, as there are an million different rigging situations and solutions. I think it's something that just becomes more intuitive as you develop your rigging skills. That development comes from doing specific techniques that tuts like the art of rigging describe.
On to something a little more specific. Re. thi IK/FK switch. How have you set it up? Are you doing a 3 joint chain setup and, if so, are you using blendColo(u)r nodes or orient constraints?
Not sure what you've done with the shoulder controls... I'm guessing you've used some kind of position or orient constraint without maintaint the offset.
As for the box on the CoG... "I can't get it to do nothing"... hehe, what have you tried?
I'd best start working now, but if you can post the rig up here, maybe I can have a look around lunchtime or something. -
16 Mar 2007Hey man, I'll PM you with a link for the Rig.
I'm gonna have another stab at this today, see if i can figure out where I'm going wrong, I'll keep you guys posted.
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