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WIP: Lady bug
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007I know Tyson has one in one of his animations, so perhaps he'll have time to make another video tutorial.
Anyway, I'm going to take a short break (day or so) from learning Particle Flow to make a Ladybug.
I know it's basically a hemisphere with bump mapping, specular, color, etc. but just curious if there are any tutorials, either written or movies?
BTW, I'm guessing taking a particle/emitter simulation and sending it over to Max wouldn't be easy or recommended?
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007Ok, maybe a hemisphere and texturing was a little general, lol
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread. ... 3&t=427632
http://student.vfs.com/%7E3d60cesar/Ima ... ing/01.jpg
Edit: Removed image tags since following post quotes this one, no need for two big pictures.
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007
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15 Jan 2007
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007Here's something I suppose.
Is there a better way to cut up a sphere for part of the shell?
What I did was,
(1) make sphere at 0, 0, 0
(2) removed bottom half
(3) removed one half
(4) selected faces in front, deleted,
(5) used resize tool to realign vertices in the front to make it even (faces were off-setting of course)
(6) deleted offending faces that were out of shape
(7) used a Shell modifier
(8) relaxed some verts to make the edge loops more evenly spaced
That sound alright so far?
I'm assuming that I could just use a simple "Cut" modifier and cut down in a straight line for the front part of the shell where the head goes, but not sure the best route for that in Max (i.e.-which modifier, I'm used to Maya)
Edit:
I used "Slice" just to try and it worked good at first, but it made several tris.
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007Ahh, look what I found
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007more fun
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15 Jan 2007this should probably be moved to factory eh?
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15 Jan 2007I think when working with spherical objects its best to start off with a cube set to 5x5x5 or 4x4x4 detail running a spherify modifier over it.
Notice up the top where you have that really ugly triangulation? Default max sphere's are craphouse.
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Jonathan 480 posts15 Jan 2007
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16 Jan 2007
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007Ok, i went back, made a cube, put the segments at 5, 5, 5, then split the cube from top to bottom, spherified it, and cut off extra portions, and with some tweaking got this. I think I like blue lady bugs now
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TheOnlyAaron 188 posts16 Jan 2007lookin' good, now on to the body!
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007How's this so far?
I sorta drag/dropped an images for my background, now how do I remove it?
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007. . .another quick tweak,
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007I'm on a roll
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007And just to say I did, a quick render
I love Max's default renderer
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16 Jan 2007Hey man...looking good! Keep up the good work! I've got my eye on this thread
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007Ok, I need to go to bed, but I decided to work on it a little more.
Just made this leg. Should I add my detail in Max or should I,
(1) export to Zbrush, add detail, and export as a displacement or normal map (gotta learn a lot more texturing stuff first, however)?
(2) or should I just apply a simple shader and add a few hairs via Max's hair/fur plugin?
I'm thinking just a simple shader+hair would be more than enough for the small legs, but I'm not sure.
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16 Jan 2007yeah man, just do a shader with some hair on the leg, there's no need to make it any more complicated than that. Anything more isn't necessary unless you are getting super close to it.
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Jonathan 480 posts16 Jan 2007Thanks for the suggestion, glad I was thinking on the right track then.
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Jonathan 480 posts17 Jan 2007More updates, let me know what you think.
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Jonathan 480 posts17 Jan 2007Another,
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Jonathan 480 posts17 Jan 2007Well, this looks more like the face of a frog, Back to the drawing board!
I'm going to try find more pics and study the contour of the bug's face
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Jonathan 480 posts17 Jan 2007Another update, still need to work on the eyes, around the shell area (between the neck/shell), detail around the arms, etc.
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17 Jan 2007Hey mate, this is really coming together well!
Only thing at the moment that bothers me is the mis-shapedness of the eyes, they're all bumpy where everything else is smooth and sharp.
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Jonathan 480 posts17 Jan 2007Yeah, I sorta didn't have time to finish them like I'd want last night as it was getting late (1:30am), but today I'm going to be working on them more, and tomorrow I have the whole day off so I can get even more done then.
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18 Jan 2007dude, you are cruising on this thing! yeah, the eyes look a little off right now, but i'm guessing in a half an hour you'll have 3 more still up and it'll look great!
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Jonathan 480 posts18 Jan 2007Thanks for the kind words. Just got home from work, so I may have time to work on it a little, but I'll do most the work tonight when I get home from church, and since I don't have to work tomorrow, I'll probably burn the midnight oil for a while.
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Jonathan 480 posts18 Jan 2007Well, nothing more to night, I'm just too tired to keep my eyes open anymore.
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Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007I'm back
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19 Jan 2007Hey mate, looking real good.
Just a few things come to mind,
How close is this going to be in you final shot? Is it as close as you're rendering now?
The antler fellery things seem too flat and just sticking out, it doesnt look like you've shaped them in any way or given them true form.
The legs seem way small
The whole shape of the body + head seem very flat, it might be the legs that is putting that out though, I'd be thinking more solid and fat.
You can see more the scale in a few photos i've taken:
(maybe aussie ones are different, sorry for the sizes and take note the last one has a collapsed head )
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Claymation 600 posts19 Jan 2007You took those photos Cam? Nice ones! -
19 Jan 2007yep, I had a fettish.... and boredom... and a new camera
taken last year sometime. -
Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007Great job cam!
Every photo I have had of lady bugs is different, different colors, different shapes of the shells, etc.
I think I'm going to add detail to the "feelers" in another 3d package.
BTW, what kind of camera do you have? My Sony 6mp camera will do micro, but not that much micro. -
19 Jan 2007Hey mate,
It's an Olympus SP350,
There are some more of my photos at http://www.simplycg.net/viewtopic.php?t=1110 or on my website if you're super interested. -
Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007Hello again,
Worked on the leg a little bit to add detail, you think it's OK?
More constructive criticism greatly appreciated.
BTW How do you import the leg back into the scene for the bug? I know in some programs (2D) you'd "paste from file," etc. but how do you do so in Max?
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19 Jan 2007that looks great!
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Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007Quick update, someone on CGtalk posted a nice reference image of a lady bug head, so I'm probably going to redo the whole head/eyes
The legs are very dense, so I will probably start hiding them while working so it doesn't slow down my PC (e6400@3ghz, 2gb RAM, 7950gx2, etc) -
19 Jan 2007Err, dude, modelling something like this, on a computer like that would be a dream.
It shouldn't be messing with you! -
Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007Well, I'm RMAing my 7950gx2 cause half of the card is apparently dead (thankfully eVGA is great about RMAs).
Here is the wireframe,
I guess when I get more 3dmax savy I'll just use normal/displacement map for the legs to have less polygons.
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19 Jan 2007Mate, seriously... why on earth are they so dense... tell me you aren't working on them like that?!
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Claymation 600 posts19 Jan 2007Yeah man, those legs are crazy dense for the amount of detail you have. I would try to simplify those first before anything.
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19 Jan 2007yep, you could get that same modelling done in a MUCH lighter mesh!
still looks good though, but holy cow, dude, if it stays like that it's gonna take forever to animate, once you've got a rig and textures, etc... -
19 Jan 2007Dense mesh != good mesh.
Clean that up bro! It looks atrocious with that much smooth on it and there's no reason for it -
Jonathan 480 posts19 Jan 2007
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