The Graveyard
/
CG Challenge Archive
PEVFX Water - Ben
-
28 Sep 2006yay water!
-
28 Sep 2006THIS challenge! hahaha
-
28 Sep 2006yeah i saw it after i posted and was too lazy to edit it
-
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts28 Sep 2006so ur in or ur out? -
28 Sep 2006he's in - he doesn't have a choice!
-
28 Sep 2006
-
30 Sep 2006question: does it have to be water or can it be a liquid in general?
-
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts30 Sep 2006yes any liguid or fluid in general as long as it has aqua propertise
-
01 Oct 2006so....lava is fine?
-
01 Oct 2006sure is! bring it on!
-
01 Oct 2006cool idea man! looking forward seeing this one!
-
02 Oct 2006
-
03 Oct 2006nice - looks like you set it up all automatically in reactor, yes?
this is gonna look really cool all dark, and then all glowing with the lava! -
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts03 Oct 2006u know what would be cool to see more than one of those things that spill lava would be also nice to set up a mechanicel system for them to work just ideas
-
03 Oct 2006
-
03 Oct 2006
-
03 Oct 2006
-
04 Oct 2006dude, i TOTALLY can relate!!
all the geometry for my scene is done, animated and everything, and now i just want to run the water on it. I set up 3 big glu emitters last night, turned their LOD (level of detail) way down, and set it to calculate. woke up this morning to a big fat crash. I have been saving increments of my project, so nothing got corrupted, but i'm only gonna try one more time, then it's PFlow all the way. Even after I have a PFlow sim, i'll try to use the PWrapper.
If i go with pflow, i'll be sure to study Draper's tutorial in that recent issue of 3dworld where he simulated liquid with no plugins. i think he was doing some crazy Keep Apart stuff that's gonna make this just as long to calculate as a liquid sim.
i thought about trying out realflow, but it crashes just as much, if not more.
water is hard.
keep at it though! this is what seperates the pros from the amatuers! -
04 Oct 2006
-
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts04 Oct 2006ben buddy question did u try calculate the surface after calculating the particles if so that makes alot of crashing for me but now i dont get one crash the way around it is to simulate the particles then enable surface at a fram where there is water movment after that change the surface settings then disable the surface and go on with ur animation and before u render turn it on again that worked for me and i havent got 1 crash after that but LOL MY MAX file got currupted which is a max fault but hey most softwares like these do (main reason is because computers are still stupid and cant alert u when they are going out of wak which means low on ram )
PLEASE STAY ON THIS VFX WONT BE THE SAME WITHOUT U come on man ask us and i am sure no one will keep any info away from u -
04 Oct 2006the problem is the cauldron the water's going into the second the calcs start they all squash together in the middle like they're allergic to the sides of the cauldron and there's no way in glu3d(that i can find) to decrease the distance the particles can be from the surface. they work just fine on other surfaces but its just the cauldron. its weird because i made a previous sim with the same setup and it worked fine!
-
04 Oct 2006maybe try making a low-rez proxy of your cauldron, running the sim with that one, then just unhiding your real one. i made low-res versions of everything in my scene to use only for the simulation.
if you position your low res cauldron on frame 1 aligned with your real one, then just link it and hide your real one, there'll be almost no setup time.
don't forget to take your real one out of the object collisions panel!
just an idea... -
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts04 Oct 2006ok here is a solution for ur problem first of all i found this problem before what i do is make the shape that holds the liquid of seperate detached object and as hype said its the hidden low one SECOND WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANTLY check ur pre-object parameter and check if the cauldron u put to collide with has not mor than 0.0001 collesion gap
try that and tell me if it works on worst case senario if it didnt send the file here hype, me and the others will check it and will come up with a solution but try the solutions me and hype have passed
good luck and please keep us updated -
04 Oct 2006the collision gap wasnt the problem, i fixed it though. took every object in the scene and enlarged it 2.5x
the render will be done by tomorrow -
04 Oct 2006been ther done that..........max likes to crash.........2.5 used to do more though
hang in there........
kilroy -
04 Oct 2006
-
04 Oct 2006
-
04 Oct 2006
-
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts04 Oct 2006ausom ur back on ur feet
-
04 Oct 2006SUCCESS! sort of. the calculations went more-or-less flawlessly and the render turned out ok(for the time taken to make the lighting, etc) but I'm stil not stisfied with it. I'm going to revise it tonight, slow the animation down a bunch, add a few light(nothing incredibly bright just for atmosphere) and maybe texture the floor. but for now here's the animation v1.
-
05 Oct 2006
-
mahmoudnahmad 1,159 posts05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006
-
05 Oct 2006cool test rides! now apply it to the lava!
i really didn't do anything spectacular, other than type "trails", "ky trails", "sparks", & "3ds Max sparks" into google.
how about instead of a "flirt with hype" thread, i can just post my address and you guys can send checks, money orders, or even cash? yeah, i like that idea!! -
05 Oct 2006You post your address I guarantee there'll be at least 3 people on your doorstep the next day looking for food.
Pleez sir, can I 'ave some more?? -
05 Oct 2006you'll get what's given to ya, goddammit!
-
06 Oct 2006hype, have u tried texturing one of the pwrappers yet? mine isnt working right. the texture map stays in place as the fluids keep moving(ie: it doesnt move with the fluid) any tips other than manually animating the uvw gizmo?
-
06 Oct 2006yeah, i've tried to texture them in the past. it doesn't move with the mesh.
if i remember correctly, this is also a problem with blobmesh, and Pete Draper discusses it in DTE in his lava blob tutorial. I can't remember what his solution is (i'm at work, the book is at home).
i think he might have animated the material (the actual material, not the UV's).
if you're still having this problem when i get home in 5 hours, i'll take a look and let you know what he did. -
06 Oct 2006
-
06 Oct 2006
-
06 Oct 2006
-
06 Oct 2006
-
06 Oct 2006
Simply CG Contributors
