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My Panda Thread
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16 Jul 2005Ok....I made a Panda bear character a while back, and it's looking like I'm going to be working with him for my entry to the current cgtalk anim session, and the current 10second club session....so I'm using this thread to post everything to do with those things here at simplycg!
Here's a teaser frame. This is from my cgtalk entry. Haven't started my 10second entry yet.
Lots of stuff to be added/changed still...so bear with me! Haha...."bear" with me...LOL....I crack myself up. *walks into a post* -
17 Jul 2005omg yes this is the first time i've seen the little guy. he's so cute!
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17 Jul 2005First blocking pass on my animation done
Still tons of problems to fix...but that's why it's only a blocking pass!
http://www.theonlyt.com/Main/Animations/Panda/pass1.mov (Quicktime, 1.15mb) -
17 Jul 2005lol what's with the audio?
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17 Jul 2005That's the clip we have to use.
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17 Jul 2005Hey Bud, thats a fine start! The teaser frame looks grand (this guy renders out so well!)
Its an interesting approach to the dialogue. The start works very nicely, you can hear the stress in Marty's voice and the struggle to the top of the hill fits nicely with the audio. However the poses for the second half of Marty's dialogue "you built a time machine... out of a Delorean" don't read too well as the only emphasis is on the pandas head movement. It'd be nice to see maybe some hand gesture in there too (though as he's on all fours I can see why you chose not to do that - hmm, I guess you could have him kneel for that part of the dialogue)
So how are you finding the pose to pose method of animating? Looks like you're getting the hang of it It seems you've broken it down to a pose every 4 frames or so. There's lots of argument as to how much detail to put into the blocking stage (some people take it down to a pose every 2 frames which is waaay too much IMO - may as well draw the thing by hand!) The way I work is to have 2 blocking passes. Have just the critical poses first (which ends up very static, but works almost like a stroyboard as there may be a 1 or 2 second gap between poses) Then, when I'm happy that the poses are strong I'll break them down a little more, adding moving holds between the longer poses, adding arcs to the motion etc. Basically I'd suggest not getting into too much deatail on the very first pass - until you know for sure that's exactly how you want the anim to look.
Looking forward to seeing more!
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18 Jul 2005Hey man,
Thanks for the comments! I agree with the hand gestures...and have already beaten you to it! Lol....I'll post an update soon...as I've already gone to smoothing everything out (ie...I'm past the blocking stage)
As for stepped keys...meh....I didn't really find that it saved any time...in fact, it took longer to do some things. Ah well....it WAS nice having my whole scene "in place" before starting to brute-force smooth it all out -
18 Jul 2005Ooh - looking forward to the update
Yeah, I can see what you mean about the stepped keys - Take a walk cycle for instance. If you are stepped it's not so easy to raise the foot at the mid point and create an arc in the characters footstep.
Though looking at the first blocked anim I think you may have broken it down too much, maybe put too many keys in for the blocking stage. I much prefer blocking out the poses - though I try not to stay at stepped keys for too long before making things linear. For me it's just a nice way to check the timings of the major poses and not for any kind of detail. -
18 Jul 2005Actually the ONE good thing about the blocking pass I did was that having so many keys helped a bit in the smoothing stage...Especially for the hand movements.
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19 Jul 2005oh my god. i absolutely LOVE this guy! the animation even in this early stage is so fluent and life-like! i really need to start animating more. i love the character, the concept and the audio. and the render makes him look so huggable
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19 Jul 2005Thanks Ridestowe
Another update....still chuggin away! (this time it's just a playblast render)
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19 Jul 2005i'm assuming that his mouth will eventually move and there will be a second panda or character to go along? gj btw
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19 Jul 2005haha yes.....either that or he's a great ventriloquist talking to a ghost...lol
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19 Jul 2005i say you hand it in for the judging as it is now. cutting off half the animation and only 1 character
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20 Jul 2005Looking nice bud, much better with some hand gestures in there
I really like that shake of the head on 'Delorean'. I can't wait to see some lipsync on this. One quick thing though, looking back to the 1st pass you have him rolling over on to his back as the second dialogue comes in. It looks nice, but when the second character comes in I'm wondering if this roll will detract from attention away from it. Which was a problem you had with the earlier version of your taxes anim.
I must be quite annoying to be told to stop animating things so well that the audiences' eyes want to see everything at once! LOL
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20 Jul 2005i keep watching these passes over and over again and it gets better everytime....i really cant get over how amazing your animating skills are. i swear that was a real panda climping up a rocky hill.
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20 Jul 2005Hehe...thanks for your comments! Much appreciated
Global: Good point...those were my thoughts exactly....which means I'll probably take that part out (plus...that'll help make the animating easier...haha....rolling a large body like that without having too many body-to-ground interpenetrations was going to be a nightmare!)
Ben: Thanks man...glad you like! More updates soon....And look forward to my ladybug animation which will also be online soon! wink wink -
20 Jul 2005you need to put these characters together into a full-fledged short movie. it would be a big endevaur obviously, but i can already tell from this panda that you're lady bug will look amazing i suck at characters
edit: ok i'll stop spamming this thread with praise, i've been posting literally everyother post here
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20 Jul 2005Hey no worries man....compliments always appreciated!
As for my ladybug....he's turning out REALLY well so far...but he's not cartoony....I'm going for as realistic looking as possible, in the shortest timeframe (ie...should be done in the next day or two)......basically, in the same vein as my one-day "sparrow" animation (which I'm sure you've seen).
Let's see if this one can get me 15 job offers too! LOL -
20 Jul 2005i actually hadn't seen the sparrow animation....but now that i have......HOLY COW fdsjfsdhfkanfdkcewfjjkfsdalgasuh man you are so f*cking good at animation rigging and modelling its unbelieveable!!! 15 job offers @_@ i havent gotten 1 job offer!
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21 Jul 2005looks really cool!!
as I don't know anything in animation, what is the king of "8" (rotated) at the right of the video, with wires going to the head of the panda??
could you post a wire, or something to let me see the rig jog? -
21 Jul 2005Hi Weider, those things are controlling the hands/finger movement
I'll post a rig render or something if I have time. -
25 Jul 2005Haha, good to see him again.
Animations is coming along nicely. Its really good to see you progress through it.
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